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 +====== -"F" MORAY CTA Radio Procedures ======
  
 +===== - Introduction =====
 +
 +Basically, when communicating with air traffic keep it short and sweet. Always remember that the other guy at the end of the line is human and not a god. We should however aspire to maintain good radio discipline as it helps our reputation as responsible pilots. How’s that achieved? Some helpful hints.
 +
 +Engage brain before opening mouth. Use the mnemonic **<color #FF0000>CAPACER</color>** as the guide for the “message”. The example message exchange is shown below:
 +
 +|  **<color #FF0000>C/A</color>**   | **Callsign / Aircraft**     | Glider SC       | Gliders don’t need to use the G-XXXX aircraft registration call sign, the comp number or trigraph is ok.  \\ \\ If in a two-seat glider say “Scottish Control 2 seat Glider T3”. After the initial call you can omit “2 seat” from the callsign. |
 +|  **<color #FF0000>P</color>**    | **Position** | 15 nautical miles North West of ERSON  | Erson is an ATC reporting point. Better to use what they know, e.g., FOYLE, ERSON, GUSSI or INBAS reporting points  |
 +|  **<color #FF0000>A</color>**    | **Altitude**     | Currently Flight Level 140 |Reminds them you are a glider. \\ \\ ATC usually prefers FL’s above 6000’, otherwise altitude. | 
 +|  **<color #FF0000>C</color>**    | **Condition**    | VMC | Can be left out but it makes ATC aware of your actual conditions |
 +|  **<color #FF0000>E/R</color>**  | **Estimates / Requests** | For Information Glider SC intends to cross Moray CTA West to East Not above FL160 close to ERSON. No service required | |
 +
 +===== - Example 1 =====
 +
 +Initial contact with **Scottish Control** on, (for example), radio frequency 127.275
 +
 +<html>
 +<p class="pmkquote scquote">
 +“Scottish Control, Glider SC” (Sierra Charlie)
 +</p>
 +</html>
 +
 +ATC will reply with:
 +
 +<html>
 +<p class="pmkquote atcquote">
 +“Glider SC, Scottish (Control), pass your message”
 +</p>
 +</html>
 +
 +Use the mnemonic (CAPACER)
 +
 +<html>
 +<p class="pmkquote scquote">
 +“Glider SC is 15 nautical miles North West of ERSON, Currently FL140 VMC.  
 +For information Glider SC intends to cross MORAY CTA West to East not above FL160 close to ERSON. No service required."
 +</p>
 +</html>
 +
 +ATC’s likely response (in most cases):
 +
 +<html>
 +<p class="pmkquote atcquote">
 +“Glider SC, that’s approved. Call entering and leaving MORAY CTA not above FL160 and     maintain VMC.”
 +</p>
 +</html>
 +
 +Note: **READ BACK**: Always read back a clearance exactly as it is given.  In this case (whilst not exactly an ATC clearance) the reply is:
 +
 +<html>
 +<p class="pmkquote scquote">
 +“Scottish, Will call entering and leaving MORAY CTA not above FL160 and maintain VMC, Glider SC."
 +</p>
 +</html>
 +
 +Once clear of the appropriate airspace and no longer needing to talk to ATC:
 +
 +<html>
 +<p class="pmkquote scquote">
 +“Scottish, Glider SC is clear of MORAY CTA East of ERSON, returning to gliding frequencies"
 +</p>
 +</html>
 +
 +<html>
 +<p class="pmkquote atcquote">
 +“Glider SC, roger, have a good flight.”
 +</p>
 +</html>
 +
 +When talking to ATC don’t gabble. Make clear and concise statements. The rigid language of CAP 413 is not always followed – it can be quite relaxed. To start with write down on a card CAPACER and run a few scenarios through your head. Lastly and most importantly the thing is to relax. It’s just another guy/gal on the end of the line and they know a lot less about flying and your needs as a glider than you do.
 +
 +===== - Example 2 =====
 +
 +Here’s another full example: for instance, glider SC is heading SW from Ballinluig to turn Lochgoilhead. At about Kenmore he/she changes from 130.105 to 127.275 and after a pause to avoid interrupting any ongoing conversation, calls:
 +
 +<html>
 +<p class="pmkquote scquote">
 +“Scottish Control, Glider SC”
 +</p>
 +</html>
 +
 +<html>
 +<p class="pmkquote atcquote">
 +“Glider SC, Scottish (Control), pass your message”
 +</p>
 +</html>
 +
 +<html>
 +<p class="pmkquote scquote">
 +“Scottish, for information, Glider SC is approximately 10 miles South of INBAS currently at Flight Level 120 and intending to track SW across MORAY CTA not above FL160. No service required."
 +</p>
 +</html>
 +
 +<html>
 +<p class="pmkquote atcquote">
 +“Glider SC that’s approved. Report entering and leaving MORAY CTA, not above FL160 and maintain VMC."
 +</p>
 +</html>
 +
 +<html>
 +<p class="pmkquote scquote">
 + “Report entering and leaving MORAY CTA not above FL160 and maintain VMC, glider SC.”
 +</p>
 +</html>
 +
 +A few minutes later...
 +
 +<html>
 +<p class="pmkquote scquote">
 + “Scottish, Glider SC entering MORAY CTA, currently climbing through Flight Level 115.”
 +</p>
 +</html>
 +
 +<html>
 +<p class="pmkquote atcquote">
 +“Roger, Glider SC.”
 +</p>
 +</html>
 +
 +A few more minutes later, maybe:
 +
 +<html>
 +<p class="pmkquote atcquote">
 +“Glider SC, Scottish”
 +</p>
 +</html>
 +
 +<html>
 +<p class="pmkquote scquote">
 +“Go ahead, Glider SC”
 +</p>
 +</html>
 +
 +<html>
 +<p class="pmkquote atcquote">
 +“We have an air ambulance in your area tracking S at Flight Level 130, report your Flight Level.”
 +</p>
 +</html>
 +
 +<html>
 +<p class="pmkquote scquote">
 +“Scottish, SC is currently at Flight Level 90 – if it helps, I can stay below Flight Level 120 unless I call you”
 +</p>
 +</html>
 +
 +<html>
 +<p class="pmkquote atcquote">
 +“Glider SC that is helpful, not above Flight Level 120 unless approved – traffic should be clear in about 10 minutes”
 +</p>
 +</html>
 +
 +<html>
 +<p class="pmkquote scquote">
 +“Scottish, Glider SC is now clear of MORAY CTA West of ERSON and intends to return to gliding frequencies”
 +</p>
 +</html>
 +
 +<html>
 +<p class="pmkquote atcquote">
 +“Glider SC, roger, traffic now clear behind you, have a nice day.”
 +</p>
 +</html>
 +
 +<html>
 +<p class="pmkquote scquote">
 +“Scottish, roger, I will call again later on the return trip.”
 +</p>
 +</html>
 +
 +So, not exactly proper RT – but in our experience pretty typical.
 +
 +Lastly and again to repeat, as a way of giving your position in relation to a reporting point one can use GO TO (or the non Oudie equivalent) which will give a bearing and distance to a reporting point. You must give the bearing **from** the reporting point i.e., add or subtract 180° to the GO TO bearing.
 +
 +===== - Reporting Points =====
 +
 +If you want to put the reporting points in your nav kit, going Northbound:
 +
 +| **FOYLE** | 560834N | 0042256W |
 +| **ERSON** | 562748N | 0041824W |
 +| **INBAS** | 564200N | 0041459W |
 +| **GUSSI** | 571247N | 0040727W |
 +
 +===== - Notes =====
 +
 +
 +  * Sometimes if they are busy, they may ask for a time for airspace penetration.
 +  * What does “no service required” mean? Exactly what it says; ATC will not have to (though they will likely try – it’s ingrained) give you any service, e.g., basic service, traffic service, etc. and that way they will not bug you unless they have to.
 +  * Remember that distances, flight levels, bearings, and times are read as separate digits e.g., “GUSSI radial 120° at 20nm, FL140 is spoken as “GUSSI radial one two zero degrees, two zero nautical miles at Flight Level one four zero”.
 +  * When giving a distance and bearing it’s from a waypoint, not to the waypoint. It’s possibly easier to say for example, North West of GUSSI (for example). Also, it’s best to work in nautical miles.
 +  * The reason for telling ATC the maximum level you expect to cross the airway is that ATC must sterilize a defined airspace box to protect other IFR or VFR traffic. Giving ATC a maximum FL makes it easier for them.
 +
 +[[E. Letters of Agreement]] | [[airfieldmanual:start#contents|Contents]] | [[g._reporting_defects_in_club_gliders|G. Reporting Defects in Club Gliders]]
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